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free anti-ddos websites - hamed - 04-24-2021

Hi friends, I had a few questions.
What is the best VPS Anti attack and Website anti ddos (free) and how can I get it, does it need a visa card or is it completely free?
Please share the sites that offer this package for free. Thank you


RE: free anti-ddos websites - debjit - 04-24-2021

I think https://www.linode.com/ and https://www.digitalocean.com/ do provide free DDoS protection for every instance. You can use Cloudflare for free to any of your existing website, as a free DDoS protection alternative.


RE: free anti-ddos websites - hamed - 04-24-2021

(04-24-2021, 02:08 PM)debjit Wrote: I think https://www.linode.com/ and https://www.digitalocean.com/ do provide free DDoS protection for every instance. You can use Cloudflare for free to any of your existing website, as a free DDoS protection alternative.

Does this prevent robots? Because more than 10 bots become members of my site community and post useless posts to get backlinks


RE: free anti-ddos websites - debjit - 04-24-2021

(04-24-2021, 05:01 PM)hamed Wrote: Does this prevent robots? Because more than 10 bots become members of my site community and post useless posts to get backlinks

That's called antispam. You need to implement a captcha or something else to stop antispam.


RE: free anti-ddos websites - Mashiro - 04-24-2021

Hosting providers with some kind of free DDoS protection are:
- Linode
- Hetzner Cloud
- OVH

Cannot really name more as I didn't have products with any other providers so far.


Digital Ocean DOES NOT offer free DDoS protection! In fact Digital Ocean will cut down the network of your VPS it if gets attacked. There are several threads on their own forum where people asked about DDoS protection. Digital Ocean has hardware DDoS protection at their data center level but that doesn't apply for your VPS droplets! If you get attacked your VPS will be shutdown or the network will cut.

Vultr also DOES NOT offer free DDoS protection. Paid DDoS protection for their product start at 10$ and upwards.


To your last question: you are look for a anti spam solution. There are multiple ways to combat this. And it depends a lot on what you are hosting. Stuff like MyBB, Wordpress and etc. have the ability to use services like Akismet or StopForumSpam. With the right configuration of these things you can block 95% of bots (maybe even 100% but sometimes you will still get little spam that looks like it is handmade but could be a very new kind of bot that isn't well known, yet).

DDoS protection will not block any of the bots unless they are actually attacking your server.

Another thing that helps is CloudFlare as it will filter out a lot of bots and it includes DDoS protection BUT THERE IS THE BIG BUT... as a free CloudFlare customer you're not really entitled to any guaranteed protection in terms of DDoS. If the attacks become too big CloudFlare will disable the protection for your domain and the attack will hit your real server directly.


RE: free anti-ddos websites - hamed - 04-28-2021

(04-24-2021, 07:28 PM)Mashiro Wrote: Hosting providers with some kind of free DDoS protection are:
- Linode
- Hetzner Cloud
- OVH

Cannot really name more as I didn't have products with any other providers so far.


Digital Ocean DOES NOT offer free DDoS protection! In fact Digital Ocean will cut down the network of your VPS it if gets attacked. There are several threads on their own forum where people asked about DDoS protection. Digital Ocean has hardware DDoS protection at their data center level but that doesn't apply for your VPS droplets! If you get attacked your VPS will be shutdown or the network will cut.

Vultr also DOES NOT offer free DDoS protection. Paid DDoS protection for their product start at 10$ and upwards.


To your last question: you are look for a anti spam solution. There are multiple ways to combat this. And it depends a lot on what you are hosting. Stuff like MyBB, Wordpress and etc. have the ability to use services like Akismet or StopForumSpam. With the right configuration of these things you can block 95% of bots (maybe even 100% but sometimes you will still get little spam that looks like it is handmade but could be a very new kind of bot that isn't well known, yet).

DDoS protection will not block any of the bots unless they are actually attacking your server.

Another thing that helps is CloudFlare as it will filter out a lot of bots and it includes DDoS protection BUT THERE IS THE BIG BUT... as a free CloudFlare customer you're not really entitled to any guaranteed protection in terms of DDoS. If the attacks become too big CloudFlare will disable the protection for your domain and the attack will hit your real server directly.

You mean, like, all those anti-ddos sites shutting down when you attack? If so, sites should be shut down (minute by minute). You are wrong I think. I asked my friends and they said that this software will only block the IPs that attack. In fact, it is


RE: free anti-ddos websites - Mashiro - 04-28-2021

@hamed

You must be referring to the following sentence of mine?

Mashiro Wrote:Another thing that helps is CloudFlare as it will filter out a lot of bots and it includes DDoS protection BUT THERE IS THE BIG BUT... as a free CloudFlare customer you're not really entitled to any guaranteed protection in terms of DDoS. If the attacks become too big CloudFlare will disable the protection for your domain and the attack will hit your real server directly.

If you don't refer to that sentence please explain what exactly you mean instead of quoting a whole post with a lot of content.

If you are indeed referring to the quoted sentence I ask you kindly to read the sentence once again slowly and carefully.


I will mark the most important part of my sentence and explain it to you again:

- as a free CloudFlare customer you're not really entitled to any guaranteed protection in terms of DDoS.
-- This means that with the free CloudFlare plan you get free protection, too. However the free protection level has no fixed obligations from CloudFlare's side to provide you the protection all the time and for all attack volumes. Thus you get no guarantee to be protected at all times. CloudFlare is a for profit company and therefore wants to make money. Free clients that attract many attacks or big attacks are a huge loss for CloudFlare.

- If the attacks become too big CloudFlare will disable the protection for your domain and the attack will hit your real server directly.
-- There is not really much to add here. Read it once again. It says the protection will be shutdown NOT YOUR SITE! It is clearly written. Not sure how you can even read or understand that "the site will be shutdown". And not sure how you can even remotely read or understand that the DDoS protection service would shutdown when your site is attacked. Neither your site nor the protection service will shutdown. The protection for your site will be shutdown. Thus your site will be directly affected by the DoS/DDoS attack(s). All traffic will be routed directly to your real server instead of CloudFlare's DDoS protected infrastructure.


The above said and explained things have happened already to sites that used CloudFlare free plan and got attacked with very big attacks or have been under attack for too long. These events even made it into some form of news that you might have seen or might not have seen (heavily depending in which kind of scene you are active).

Keep this in mind with all free services! Free never is really free.


RE: free anti-ddos websites - deanhills - 04-29-2021

(04-24-2021, 12:44 PM)hamed Wrote: Hi friends, I had a few questions.
What is the best VPS Anti attack and Website anti ddos (free) and how can I get it, does it need a visa card or is it completely free?
Please share the sites that offer this package for free. Thank you

Kudos to @Mashiro for probably one of the most excellent posts I've seen trying to communicate information.  Cool

To be honest @hamed.  When I first read the content of your OP I had this vision of a VPS or Website owner closing his eyes and shaking his head.  Do not provide space to this individual.  As chaos is coming.  Why would you require anti attack hosting?  

Better request would be.  You're into running games servers.  As such you would need hosting that provides for ddos protection that is inclusive of the price of hosting or free.  That is a reasonable request that a hosting owner would understand and respect and respond to.

Best places to look for are sponsors who are dedicated providers of hosting for games servers.  Hosting for games servers are on a totally different level than normal VPS use.  It requires a higher level of protection.  So telling the host that you need the hosting for games servers, would immediately give him a framework of reference.  He can tell you straight out (such as Gigarocket used to do), that he's not into supporting games servers, or he will tell you that is a specialty.  Usually it will be included in the price of the VPS BUT you may pay more for the VPS compared with a VPS that doesn't require that high level of protection.  That makes sense doesn't it?  As to make your VPS more robust for protection, is going to cost extra for the host in terms of additional software and hardening the server.  That host will also need to provide more savvy admin support.

We do currently have a sponsor at post4vps who provides ddos protected hosting for games servers - Evolution Host.  You can check they have a whole section on how their protection works.
https://evolution-host.com/antiddos.php

Evolution Host are also providers of dedicated games hosting - which for me says they are experts in knowing all of the pros and cons.  And if there should be any issues they will help you.  One of our members, @Khadeer143 has just good things to say about Evolution Host. He qualified for a free Evolution Host VPS last year. Evolution Host offers free VPS on the basis of having an already existing Website that scores 20 on SEO Ranking using this tool. I don't know if Evolution Host still provides this service, but I was able to find more info at the link below at Lowendbox:
https://lowendbox.com/blog/evolution-host-unique-offer-for-leb-free-enterprise-grade-vps-for-those-who-qualify/

So you could try them out.  I won't recommend their sponsored VPS 10 to you, as it is not on the same level as their paid VPSs.  But they should be good with what they do and understand what you want because they are specialists with games servers.

Bottomline.  There isn't "free" for this high level of protection.  The real protection has to come from the host on a server that is dedicated for that high level of protection.  That is why you get hosts who refuse to run their servers for games.  As they haven't set up their servers for high-level protection that is needed for games and that would put their servers at risk.  So you need to find the hosts who are dedicated games servers hosts and be willing to pay for this.

Alternative is to just be very careful and not open your server to unnecessary risks or draw unnecessary attention to your server.  Try to keep a low profile that isn't noticed and doesn't open you to attacks.  Cloudflare makes sense to use, but again, doesn't provide the kind of protection you're asking for as it has to come top down from how the server is set up by the host.  You could also check out games server forums as you may be able to find tips there of how to protect your server as much as you can "for free".


RE: free anti-ddos websites - Sn1F3rt - 04-30-2021

Agreed with Dean, @Mashiro posted an awesome reply with a beautiful breakdown and technical explanation of all the OP desired. I do not have much more to add, however, I would like to highlight that Cloudflare has been my first choice of protecting my websites. It's free and does the job quite well. In fact, you could write a bash script that monitors your network and in case there's a way more than normal surge detected it uses the Cloudflare API to turn on the "Under Attack" mode for your website. That way you don't really need to always have the JS challenge for all your visitors to the website (it's quite annoying IMHO) while ensuring that you encounter an attack on your website successfully.

As for your last question, Akismet Anti-Spam is the plugin you are looking for, by far the most effective plugin I've come across to date. Hope that helps!


RE: free anti-ddos websites - hamed - 04-30-2021

(04-28-2021, 03:15 PM)Mashiro Wrote: @hamed

You must be referring to the following sentence of mine?


If you don't refer to that sentence please explain what exactly you mean instead of quoting a whole post with a lot of content.

If you are indeed referring to the quoted sentence I ask you kindly to read the sentence once again slowly and carefully.


I will mark the most important part of my sentence and explain it to you again:

- as a free CloudFlare customer you're not really entitled to any guaranteed protection in terms of DDoS.
-- This means that with the free CloudFlare plan you get free protection, too. However the free protection level has no fixed obligations from CloudFlare's side to provide you the protection all the time and for all attack volumes. Thus you get no guarantee to be protected at all times. CloudFlare is a for profit company and therefore wants to make money. Free clients that attract many attacks or big attacks are a huge loss for CloudFlare.

- If the attacks become too big CloudFlare will disable the protection for your domain and the attack will hit your real server directly.
-- There is not really much to add here. Read it once again. It says the protection will be shutdown NOT YOUR SITE! It is clearly written. Not sure how you can even read or understand that "the site will be shutdown". And not sure how you can even remotely read or understand that the DDoS protection service would shutdown when your site is attacked. Neither your site nor the protection service will shutdown. The protection for your site will be shutdown. Thus your site will be directly affected by the DoS/DDoS attack(s). All traffic will be routed directly to your real server instead of CloudFlare's DDoS protected infrastructure.


The above said and explained things have happened already to sites that used CloudFlare free plan and got attacked with very big attacks or have been under attack for too long. These events even made it into some form of news that you might have seen or might not have seen (heavily depending in which kind of scene you are active).

Keep this in mind with all free services! Free never is really free.
I'm so sorry . I understand what you mean now. Thanks for the help.
So, as it turns out, it's better not to use this method and try to buy a server with physical anti ddos for my site. It is true?
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(04-29-2021, 08:51 AM)deanhills Wrote: Kudos to @Mashiro for probably one of the most excellent posts I've seen trying to communicate information.  Cool

To be honest @hamed.  When I first read the content of your OP I had this vision of a VPS or Website owner closing his eyes and shaking his head.  Do not provide space to this individual.  As chaos is coming.  Why would you require anti attack hosting?  

Better request would be.  You're into running games servers.  As such you would need hosting that provides for ddos protection that is inclusive of the price of hosting or free.  That is a reasonable request that a hosting owner would understand and respect and respond to.

Best places to look for are sponsors who are dedicated providers of hosting for games servers.  Hosting for games servers are on a totally different level than normal VPS use.  It requires a higher level of protection.  So telling the host that you need the hosting for games servers, would immediately give him a framework of reference.  He can tell you straight out (such as Gigarocket used to do), that he's not into supporting games servers, or he will tell you that is a specialty.  Usually it will be included in the price of the VPS BUT you may pay more for the VPS compared with a VPS that doesn't require that high level of protection.  That makes sense doesn't it?  As to make your VPS more robust for protection, is going to cost extra for the host in terms of additional software and hardening the server.  That host will also need to provide more savvy admin support.

We do currently have a sponsor at post4vps who provides ddos protected hosting for games servers - Evolution Host.  You can check they have a whole section on how their protection works.
https://evolution-host.com/antiddos.php

Evolution Host are also providers of dedicated games hosting - which for me says they are experts in knowing all of the pros and cons.  And if there should be any issues they will help you.  One of our members, @Khadeer143 has just good things to say about Evolution Host. He qualified for a free Evolution Host VPS last year. Evolution Host offers free VPS on the basis of having an already existing Website that scores 20 on SEO Ranking using this tool. I don't know if Evolution Host still provides this service, but I was able to find more info at the link below at Lowendbox:
https://lowendbox.com/blog/evolution-host-unique-offer-for-leb-free-enterprise-grade-vps-for-those-who-qualify/

So you could try them out.  I won't recommend their sponsored VPS 10 to you, as it is not on the same level as their paid VPSs.  But they should be good with what they do and understand what you want because they are specialists with games servers.

Bottomline.  There isn't "free" for this high level of protection.  The real protection has to come from the host on a server that is dedicated for that high level of protection.  That is why you get hosts who refuse to run their servers for games.  As they haven't set up their servers for high-level protection that is needed for games and that would put their servers at risk.  So you need to find the hosts who are dedicated games servers hosts and be willing to pay for this.

Alternative is to just be very careful and not open your server to unnecessary risks or draw unnecessary attention to your server.  Try to keep a low profile that isn't noticed and doesn't open you to attacks.  Cloudflare makes sense to use, but again, doesn't provide the kind of protection you're asking for as it has to come top down from how the server is set up by the host.  You could also check out games server forums as you may be able to find tips there of how to protect your server as much as you can "for free".
Yes, I understand, and thank you very much for your guidance. In my opinion, OVH has the best anti ddos, which physically protects the servers, and large game servers such as fortnite and other games are hosted on these servers. what is your opinion