[Manal]

Interested to know what happened for the domain owners? Jailed or what?

Three of them were charged. However, other's information aren't disclosed yet.

[deanhills]

Three of them were charged. However, other's information aren't disclosed yet.

Will be interesting if the list of Websites the Feds are pursuing are in the US. Do you know whether their geo location of those companies that have been charged is outside the US?

[perry]

ddos sites used to be testing sites.

but its easy to abuse. as there is no validation process. you just give a target and just slap some money at it it will do its work.
but still i understand on the reason above said.

[Kururin]

I don't think you need websites? Cause Low Orbit can cause massive damage if you employ a bigger farm with windows server running on it. But I don't think its enough to take down most sites as their datacenter is increasingly getting huger and bigger.

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Meh, who cares. They have massive botnets with thousands of server needed to obliterate websites. Doesn't need a website to do that. Also they can easily sell this on TOR/Onion network also

[Manal]

I'm not unnecessarily bumping this thread but it looks like they're reviving.

After a huge downfall of the major 20+ booter service in the market, it looks another batch 30-40 booters have taken place. Many are taking advantage by saying that their domain was seized but the truth behind this was that they were arrested along with the Operation Power OFF.

As of now, 'Boot**' holds the claim to be the most powerful booter in the market after their demonstration on taking down Cloudflare websites with 'Under Attack' or 5 seconds integrity check enabled. This looks serious. I don't know if it is true.

However, the same booter holds the claim to have methods to take down OVH servers with GAME DDoS protections enabled. Now this looks serious. The above one, the Cloudflare one can be considered to be fake but not this. The reason behind this could not be fake is that I have seen the recent migration of one of the largest OVH reseller to another node. They have literally stopped selling OVH's server because of new methods coming up in the DDoS market to take them down. They instead moved to another German company for better protection.

As old goes down, new comes up. This is getting serious.

[deanhills]

@Manal. I have a deep mistrust of anything to do with Fed "news". I'm very cynical as I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately create this kind of news through other operators so they can submit proposals for huge budgets in the name of "cyber security" to justify their employment. For me it's all about power and control by the Feds, in the name of "security".

This is symbolically the same they did with Syria (along divide and rule lines), when right at the beginning the US was arming the rebels to overthrow the Syrian Government - starting a war that completely razed the country to the ground.

I'm getting carried away here, but for me I just can't trust any news reports that come from the US as most of them are written, produced and disseminated for the "masses" to manipulate them in thinking how they want them to think. The more fear they put in people, the more they can justify the need for FBI intervention and more power for the FBI.

[rudra]

yes...dean..... I think that is kind of how their foreign policy work along with internal affairs. I still see them as the best possible form of democracy on Earth right now and I have enormous respect for the concept of American dream and the declaration of Independence and ideas of individually. I like how some state have law that say you could shoot an intruder or invader to kill even if he was just entering you premises without your permission with harmful intention.
But the sad truth is most of the problems worldwide is created by them and they are actually controlled by a bunch of rich and influential people.
Still...I like to hope that it will eventually morph into a country where basic needs are met free of cost and which is governed by a bunch of humane and humble people who value education, fairness and transparency above all.
I dream of a post - scarcity world. where you do not need to work for your daily healthy food and a simple roof and some cloths and medical care. It will happen through extensive use of automation in agriculture and industry.

But we are far away from there are. Sadly.

So yes... as Manal said...the situation looks dark again. Many people here might think this struggle between hackers and anti- hackers is wasting a lot of resource. But I think this a great motivator of development too.

[Manal]

@Manal. I have a deep mistrust of anything to do with Fed "news". I'm very cynical as I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately create this kind of news through other operators so they can submit proposals for huge budgets in the name of "cyber security" to justify their employment. For me it's all about power and control by the Feds, in the name of "security".

This is symbolically the same they did with Syria (along divide and rule lines), when right at the beginning the US was arming the rebels to overthrow the Syrian Government - starting a war that completely razed the country to the ground.

I'm getting carried away here, but for me I just can't trust any news reports that come from the US as most of them are written, produced and disseminated for the "masses" to manipulate them in thinking how they want them to think. The more fear they put in people, the more they can justify the need for FBI intervention and more power for the FBI.

Agreed. Several claims have been previously made that the ragebooter(now taken down by feds) was actually supported and backed by the FBI for their secretive operations against crimes or the creation of propaganda. This might be just a hoax but the claim has got its base. US Agencies cannot be trusted as they're known for spying out people and backstabbing as @deanhills pointed out.

[deanhills]

Agreed. Several claims have been previously made that the ragebooter(now taken down by feds) was actually supported and backed by the FBI for their secretive operations against crimes or the creation of propaganda. This might be just a hoax but the claim has got its base. US Agencies cannot be trusted as they're known for spying out people and backstabbing as @deanhills pointed out.

True. Life's all of a sudden become so complicated on the Internet. I can't even trust Windows. Don't know which software to trust. Particularly if it is software that's supposed to look after security of my computer. They all get into the Registry of my computer, some of it I don't even know about, and do all kinds of things that either "eavesdrop" or conflict with other software. I'm beginning to wonder whether facing risks in the dark net is a better option. I really don't know who and what to trust any longer.

[Manal]

We ultimately cannot do anything to "completely" protect ourselves from being spied because even our own ISPs spies us. Even if we put the VPN, the traffic that is passed through our computer is logged into VPNs and we can't trust VPNs. Even VPNs who don't keep 'logs' cannot be trusted fully.