09-22-2019, 04:31 PM
@Manal: So just got some respite after hours of practising Maths. Read your post and got sometime to really before dinner.
Yes; that's pretty much what I'd said, mainly bcoz I feel we both were rather inclined towards eliminating the religious elements from our arguments. True, to mention that of dimensions. I too feel if there's a God, He must be beyond the altogether scope of this Universe cuz is he's into this, it somewhat a part of it, then the very existence is him is questionable, cuz then what form was it in which he existed out of nothingness?
Getting back to our logical discussion again, I'd like to highlight that the points you mentioned are pretty much related to the ones I did. The ones not so - I'd rather talk about them.
Well your point about being in the creation was amazing, somehow I missed mentioning it during my previous post also. You see like the example you have, Babbage wasn't inside a computer when he made it. The world was still unknown to the computer before it's public release, but I've they did, can you compare the one invented that day to the one today in physical appearance and other properties? No way. That's also a proof that the people who improvised on the computer did so because they could think beyond the scope of the computer screen and it's hardware. The way it is done is but the result of human creativity.
But again coming back to the next point which you made - if the brain itself was triggered by the Bang, then how's it's thought process to be trusted? Well here's where it turns interesting. If it's not to be, there wouldn't be things around us today as they're are actually. The computer, the mobile, the furniture, the house you stay in, even the clothes you're wearing, the language your speak - nothing at all. But the fact remains that it does. Not the question arises how? Well things are complicated here. For an instance, give a thought to something, how would you think? Is it something you're preparing out of materials? Nope it's a flowing stream if things your know which are triggered when certain topic is highlighted and your brain gathers all these remote things together and forms your opinion on an organized way (varies from person to person).
Till date, scientists have only been able to discover and verify what's the brain made of, how it's different parts function and coordinate and such other biological aspects. We've suddenly come to the conclusion that the folds in the brain decide intelligence merely comparing a few guys in whose case it proved to be true.
But tell me a guy, who discovered how do we think and confirmed it? No one can, bcuz your brain can't decipher itself. That's it basically.
About the Bang, definitely there's something which is still unknown, something that couldn't turn out to be a fact even with multiple supports. What's it? No one knows, only time can tell. Better for us to wait until then. True that our discussions should continue as it leads to expression of various ideals, but it's also true that we must wait - till when? We have been waiting for so long. But the time isn't correct yet. Maybe another dimension of the Universe can provide us the answer we desire. Maybe something which was, is and will ever remain beyond human intelligence! Definitely possible. Saying so many things I'd like to highlight one last thing, rather a fact, that the answer we desire does definitely exist maybe in the dimension we live or in the forth one? But since it does, we're bound to come across it be what may!
Well just an offtopic to mention, I liked your disclaimer in your previous post as it eliminates any possibility of accusation of intolerance.
Regards,
Yes; that's pretty much what I'd said, mainly bcoz I feel we both were rather inclined towards eliminating the religious elements from our arguments. True, to mention that of dimensions. I too feel if there's a God, He must be beyond the altogether scope of this Universe cuz is he's into this, it somewhat a part of it, then the very existence is him is questionable, cuz then what form was it in which he existed out of nothingness?
Getting back to our logical discussion again, I'd like to highlight that the points you mentioned are pretty much related to the ones I did. The ones not so - I'd rather talk about them.
Well your point about being in the creation was amazing, somehow I missed mentioning it during my previous post also. You see like the example you have, Babbage wasn't inside a computer when he made it. The world was still unknown to the computer before it's public release, but I've they did, can you compare the one invented that day to the one today in physical appearance and other properties? No way. That's also a proof that the people who improvised on the computer did so because they could think beyond the scope of the computer screen and it's hardware. The way it is done is but the result of human creativity.
But again coming back to the next point which you made - if the brain itself was triggered by the Bang, then how's it's thought process to be trusted? Well here's where it turns interesting. If it's not to be, there wouldn't be things around us today as they're are actually. The computer, the mobile, the furniture, the house you stay in, even the clothes you're wearing, the language your speak - nothing at all. But the fact remains that it does. Not the question arises how? Well things are complicated here. For an instance, give a thought to something, how would you think? Is it something you're preparing out of materials? Nope it's a flowing stream if things your know which are triggered when certain topic is highlighted and your brain gathers all these remote things together and forms your opinion on an organized way (varies from person to person).
Till date, scientists have only been able to discover and verify what's the brain made of, how it's different parts function and coordinate and such other biological aspects. We've suddenly come to the conclusion that the folds in the brain decide intelligence merely comparing a few guys in whose case it proved to be true.
But tell me a guy, who discovered how do we think and confirmed it? No one can, bcuz your brain can't decipher itself. That's it basically.
About the Bang, definitely there's something which is still unknown, something that couldn't turn out to be a fact even with multiple supports. What's it? No one knows, only time can tell. Better for us to wait until then. True that our discussions should continue as it leads to expression of various ideals, but it's also true that we must wait - till when? We have been waiting for so long. But the time isn't correct yet. Maybe another dimension of the Universe can provide us the answer we desire. Maybe something which was, is and will ever remain beyond human intelligence! Definitely possible. Saying so many things I'd like to highlight one last thing, rather a fact, that the answer we desire does definitely exist maybe in the dimension we live or in the forth one? But since it does, we're bound to come across it be what may!
Well just an offtopic to mention, I liked your disclaimer in your previous post as it eliminates any possibility of accusation of intolerance.
Regards,