[humanpuff69]

VPN have legitemate use that is to encrypt your connection but most isp marked is as a way to bypass their filter

VPN helps secire your traffic espescially when you are in public networj , https isnt enough because your dns and other unencrypted data still can be accessed

[deanhills]

VPN have legitemate use that is to encrypt your connection but most isp marked is as a way to bypass their filter

VPN helps secire your traffic espescially when you are in public networj , https isnt enough because your dns and other unencrypted data still can be accessed

Thing is @humanpuff69  anything with the word VPN is blocked here.  You can't download stuff that mentions "VPN" or looks like "VPN" - you can't access the site to download anything - even if it is not really breaking the law.  I'll wait until I'm out of the country before I check out all of the links that have been provided here.  Am grateful of those as like to have that fixed in advance of traveling next time.

[coreyman]

I've been using PureVPN for a few years.  Right from the beginning it became the "better the devil you know" VPN for me.  It worked with a few misses in between and plenty of tickets and talking to chat agents.  But lately it's become much worse and last night when I looked for a place to complain, I came across plenty of other users with the exact same experience.  It has a great support system with almost instant chat or e-mail support.  That part has been working consistently well from the beginning.  However the actual software and technology seem to be in conflict with Windows on the one side and not so bright technology for subscribers to reach remote servers successfully. 

Last year I subscribed for another 2-year special.  Like it really looked good, but if I've been able to use it that much since I signed up is another question.  Like when it works, it works well and speed is consistently great, but when it doesn't work, it's totally useless and very frustrating to trouble shoot.  What worried me the most was when it went into conflict with my last security upgrade with Windows 7 a few months ago, and I had to reverse those updates so I could use my VPN.

Anyway, be careful of PureVPN. In my own experience it hasn't been working well on the technical side with how it has been set up with software and communicating with remote servers - I guess that side of technology is highly specialized and maybe they're not completely up on that level.  Once PureVPN works it's great so I don't think it is oversubscribed on the server level.  Like I've rarely been connected and having difficulties with speed.  But to get it to connect is another story.

I do not understand why people are complaining about a piece of software not working good on windows 7. Microsoft already announced end of life for January 14, 2020. That is less than 2 years from now. I'm sure the developers of the software want to work real hard to support that legacy operating system...  That is, unless this happens in all versions of windows and isn't win7 specific.

[deanhills]

I do not understand why people are complaining about a piece of software not working good on windows 7. Microsoft already announced end of life for January 14, 2020. That is less than 2 years from now. I'm sure the developers of the software want to work real hard to support that legacy operating system...  That is, unless this happens in all versions of windows and isn't win7 specific.

I guess I don't move with the herd @coreyman and maybe what happened is an offsetting negative of that - collateral damage. 

My desktop computer and laptop were designed for Windows 7.  And until my computer or laptop end their lives I'm going to stay with the OS that it was designed for.  It wasn't designed for Windows 10.  Also, the equipment that I use with Windows 7 will also end their life when I change to Windows 10.  Not all hardware manufacturers agree to change drivers when the Windows OS is upgraded.  There are also somethings I really love about Windows 7 that are no longer available in Windows 10.  First of all the ability to say NO to some of the updates that Microsoft wants you to make to the OS.  As not all of the updates are good for one's computer as they are universally applied without any care of the content of an individual's computer.  Secondly I like the old fashioned way the games are organized - the free ones - that are no longer as easy to download in Windows 8 and upwards.  One is forced to sign up with Google Play.  One has to virtually prostitute oneself to Microsoft and Google with the up to date Windows - more so than with Windows 7.  I'm completely resistant to that kind of control.

[coreyman]

I guess I don't move with the herd @coreyman and maybe what happened is an offsetting negative of that - collateral damage. 

My desktop computer and laptop were designed for Windows 7.  And until my computer or laptop end their lives I'm going to stay with the OS that it was designed for.  It wasn't designed for Windows 10.  Also, the equipment that I use with Windows 7 will also end their life when I change to Windows 10.  Not all hardware manufacturers agree to change drivers when the Windows OS is upgraded.  There are also somethings I really love about Windows 7 that are no longer available in Windows 10.  First of all the ability to say NO to some of the updates that Microsoft wants you to make to the OS.  As not all of the updates are good for one's computer as they are universally applied without any care of the content of an individual's computer.  Secondly I like the old fashioned way the games are organized - the free ones - that are no longer as easy to download in Windows 8 and upwards.  One is forced to sign up with Google Play.  One has to virtually prostitute oneself to Microsoft and Google with the up to date Windows - more so than with Windows 7.  I'm completely resistant to that kind of control.

You could use a local group policy to fix your update fiasco, but yes I dislike forced updates. Also a lot of your drivers are already available from Microsoft and do not require that you download them from the vendor directly. If you are a gamer you also get performance boosts all over the map with Windows 10 (a great way to revive old hardware).

[Mashiro]

I have one thing to add about Windows 7 and VPN. Whatever VPN client you run you want to make sure it actually starts as Administrator (Remember the "Run as Administrator" entry on right click?). OpenVPN needs this because if you launch it normally even as a user with administrative rights it won't work. It won't have access to the command line tools of Windows to change network settings, assign IP addresses and etc to the TUN/TAP adapter and so on. It just errors and doesn't connect. A lot of VPN clients from providers like PureVPN, ExpressVPN and etc use OpenVPN actually in the background (behind the fancy GUI).

This was one issue I was fighting with very often in the past on Windows 7. Just found out about that permission issue through research. It wasn't there from the very beginning... Microsoft introduced it with a update that ought to improve security and it kinda does but it's annoying to some applications now need to be even started with "Run as Administrator" to get them working despite being logged in as a user with administrative rights.

[Rehan]

Hmm.I thought the topic is about stealing personal information ( password, email and credit card inforamtion ).But i was wrong.So it means we should not believe.I mostly search for reviews before buying something.Btw i also use cracks sometime for these type of works.
Recently a hosting company did the same shit thing.I will not mention their name.I activated a web-hosting plan.They helped me in first 1 month like i am special donator for them But after that my hosting goes down and when i asked them they did not respond even they did not attend my call at there help-line number.

[Golden]

I really don't trust these third-party VPN providers. I use Tor Browser and it does the job fine.

[Tyler]

I really don't trust these third-party VPN providers. I use Tor Browser and it does the job fine.

TOR has been compromised in the past so saying you trust it is funny.

[deanhills]

TOR has been compromised in the past so saying you trust it is funny.

VestaCP has also been compromised at one time, so has Google and Yahoo. Doesn't make them less good - just compromised. It goes with the territory. 

I'm in agreement with @Golden.  TOR for me is a good alternative, particularly since it seems to be legal in the UAE whereas VPN is blocked and illegal.  Apparently there is a difference between TOR and a VPN.  I'm still trying to wrap my brain cells around the difference but how I understand it and the reason why VPN is not liked in the UAE is that the VPN connections pass through another server where the Administrator of that server can see absolutely everything you're doing, but the Administrator of your ISP can see you're connected but not more than that.  So hence why one should be careful what VPN one is using.  It's a great way for an iffy VPN administrator to get access of what you're doing. 

With TOR there isn't a server involved. Best description of how it is different from VPN I found in the discussion below:

With the onion routing of TOR there isn't a single server who knows who you are and who you are talking to. Each node knows where it got traffic from and where it sent that traffic, but that doesn't mean it knows where the ultimate source or ultimate destination is (only the entry node knows the original source [but it doesn't know it knows this], only the exit note knows the ultimate destination, and neither of them knows who the other one is, because they only talk through a third relay node). Because it's decentralized, there's no single point of failure who can identify you and what you're doing.

Source: https://security.stackexchange.com/quest...er-and-vpn