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What do you think of VestaCP ?
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Actually i am very confused about of VestCP. i tried VestaCP once i were using VPS-1.I was unable to manage it. I have some question that is this same as CPanel? I added my domain and maybe installed something but nothing happened to the domain.Domain was simply redirecting to the apache2 example page even i waited for 24 hours. So my question is that is this same as CPanel? or different work?

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(03-22-2020, 10:26 AM)Rehan Wrote:  Actually i am very confused about of VestCP. i tried VestaCP once i were using VPS-1.I was unable to manage it. I have some question that is this same as CPanel? I added my domain and maybe installed something but nothing happened to the domain.Domain was simply redirecting to the apache2 example page even i waited for 24 hours. So my question is that is this same as CPanel? or different work?
have you configured DNS properly ? First you need to setup the domain you have used for nameservers. This process is not same as in cPanel.

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I have been keep an eye on a security discussion at WebHostingTalk. Link  and  Link

At that time I was not exactly impressed with it even though I liked the GUI. Also security Auditors found lots of security holes but they phrased developers for quality patching those up after informing them. Since I really do like to use Ubuntu I thought to give it a try again. This time ubuntu-18.04-x86_64with Cyberpanel. One thing I noticed about this panel is support is pretty good compared to VestaCP. Communication and support is one of the cons of VestaCP. So I will see how it goes. Smile

And yes of course Any control panel should be installed on a fresh OS. Smile

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(03-22-2020, 10:26 AM)Rehan Wrote:  Actually i am very confused about of VestCP. i tried VestaCP once i were using VPS-1.I was unable to manage it. I have some question that is this same as CPanel? I added my domain and maybe installed something but nothing happened to the domain.Domain was simply redirecting to the apache2 example page even i waited for 24 hours. So my question is that is this same as CPanel? or different work?

i have the same experience . it is confusing as hell to use and the creator probably doesnt look what other panel did right . the user experience is none and for me it is easier to use terminal than vestacp . unfortunately almost all panel that isnt cPanel have extremely bad user experience and familiarity

for me after i add the A record pointing to the VPS it shows the domain name text and it can be easily replaced with an ftp . sadly there are no file manager because it is a paid DLC on vesta cp

and it isnt as same as cpanel . it doesnt even have the same familiarity and ease of use as cpanel
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#14
no more vestaCP for me too many bugs and the patches are slower when they used to be in early stage, you will hardly get an update within 2 months which is quite risky when coming for vulnerabilities been using cyberpanel since last two years extremely love the resourcefulness and memory management is just great. There are also some new and interesting once out there including TinyCP, FastPanel, KeyHelp, etc and also one more thing centos-webpanel is now control web panel but cwp is quite resource hungry for me so i would generally go with TinyCP or CyberPanel. There is also something which is quite fascinating i mean if you are somehow able to fix vulnerabilities here is the link https://github.com/Richardds/ServerAdmin i quite love the simplicity it offers but sadly there are too many vulnerabilities and i am not an ubuntu fan although i can somehow manage with debain but ubuntu is a big no from me. Hope it helps regarding your adventure with web panels and all.
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#15
SO I installed Cyberpanel in ubuntu-18.04-x86_64. It didn't let me installed VestaCP previous time but could easily installed Cyberpanel. Also I really like how it looks, this panel. Setting up nameserves are lot easier than in VestaCP too. There are plenty of features to check but so far I have started liking this panel.

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(03-23-2020, 03:12 PM)humanpuff69 Wrote:  i have the same experience . it is confusing as hell to use and the creator probably doesnt look what other panel did right . the user experience is none and for me it is easier to use terminal than vestacp . unfortunately almost all panel that isnt cPanel have extremely bad user experience and familiarity

for me after i add the A record pointing to the VPS it shows the domain name text and it can be easily replaced with an ftp . sadly there are no file manager because it is a paid DLC on vesta cp

and it isnt as same as cpanel . it doesnt even have the same familiarity and ease of use as cpanel

exactly, a terminal is more easy then this VestCP. As i already have told that i have tried VestCP but never successful. I wanted to give another try to it but now i have changed my decesion, when i read TrK's reply. I had been using CPanel for a long time and that was very easy. That is the reason i installed VestaCP. 
I am agree with you that terminal is more easy then VestCP but sadly we can not manage nameservers.I wanted to create my own nameservers but someone advised me to use CloudFlare. He told me that managing nameserver is not a easy task and maybe un-secure for newbies.

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(03-24-2020, 10:24 AM)Rehan Wrote:  exactly, a terminal is more easy then this VestCP. As i already have told that i have tried VestCP but never successful. I wanted to give another try to it but now i have changed my decesion, when i read TrK's reply. I had been using CPanel for a long time and that was very easy. That is the reason i installed VestaCP. 
I am agree with you that terminal is more easy then VestCP but sadly we can not manage nameservers.I wanted to create my own nameservers but someone advised me to use CloudFlare. He told me that managing nameserver is not a easy task and maybe un-secure for newbies.

for managing dns cloudflare is better because it also offer ddos protection and caching that can improve performance and security

It is not an easy task and cloudflare or your domain dns is better choice 

The disadvantage of cloudflare is lacks of custom certificate in the free version .
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@xdude  I've just swopped two VPSs and of course had to start the new VPS from scratch.  Installing my VestaCP was a pleasure.  And absolutely no issues.  I thought of sharing exactly how I do this so you can pick up what you do different, as I found absolutely no issues with it.  This may also contain tips for those who wish to install WordPress from VestaCP.  WordPress and Database are obviously very easy to install from the command line.  But I prefer to set up the database with VestaCP.

Note I use CentOS minimal.  VestaCP prefers the minimal of any OS you prefer to use.  I've always used CentOS and once Debian.  No issues with Debian.

For the VestaCP installation I followed the steps below - a sequence one needs to follow for it to be successful:

1. Set up Domain with Name Servers first important step BEFORE installation of VestaCP
I have the domain at Namecheap set up with its own Name Servers.  Namecheap gives one the ability to create two name servers for a domain out of one IP.  So when I move to a different VPS, all I need to do is change the IP of the Name Servers.  And to check the two name servers are added to the domain at Namecheap.  They are permanent since I only need to change the IP of the Name Servers when I change from one VPS to another.

Note:  It's very important to only install VestaCP AFTER the domain has been set up like the above.  I.e. the domain must be pointing at the IP with the Name Servers such as above.  

2. Give the IP time to propagate, although yesterday when I made the change the DNS was almost immediately propagated and the Name Server IP successfully changed.

3. Once the Domain is properly set up I then SSH into the VPS.

4. I'm on CentOS so always do a passwd change and yum update first.  Then for the heck of it always add the speedtest script just to check what the speed of the VPS is like.  Tongue

5. Installation of VestaCP
For installation of VestaCP I always go to the VestaCP Install Page first:
https://vestacp.com/install/

It provides you a form for generating a VestaCP install command.  I complete the form as follows:

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Note that for FTP and Mail I said "NO".  Reason being that if there is ever a security issue, hackers seem to be focused on those two features of any panel.  I use FileZilla SFTP instead. And for mail if mail is needed I use Zoho Mail. That works very fast and very well for me.  Or you can use your own preferred FTP and Email Client.  Also note there is no File Manager. Hence the "no" for "File System Quote". No need for it however as FileZilla serves me just right, and I rarely have need to access the files.

Then click on Generate Install Command and voila you've got an install command.

6. VestaCP then provides you with the steps to add to your SSH on root with the install command - like so.  Like it couldn't possibly be easier than that:

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7. How to navigate and set up VestaCP Panel
Next of course is to access VestaCP and set it up.  If you followed the above steps with the domain, most of it is already set up but there are a few steps I learned through experience that usually makes a difference.

To access VestaCP (if you have correctly set up your domain), you should be able to access it with the domain.com:8083.  User name is always Admin and the password the one you set up in your install command.

8. Once you're in VestaCP first thing you need to do is go to the User Account. It usually appears as the first page when you access the Panel.  Or you can check the top address line for the User Link.  You need to fix the Name Servers to your domain Name Servers that you set up at your domain registrar.  That is an important first step.

To make the change you have to hover your mouse over the user area and it will then come up with a little tool bar that includes "edit" in it.  Click on edit.  And you can then make the change to the name servers.

Note:  If you wish to add users you will see a big green plus sign to the left of the user page.  Click on it and you will then be able to add a user.

9. Next check your domain is there by clicking on the WEB shortcut.  Nothing needs to be changed, but if you need to edit anything same principle applies.  Hover mouse over area for the little tool menu to appear. And when you want to add a domain, click on the green plus circle to the left of the page.

10. Next click on DNS.  Hover your mouse over the user area and when the little tool menu appears click on edit.
You then have to make two changes on the resulting input screen.  

1. Change the template to "child-ns" instead of default.  
2. Change the SOA with your domain.  I.e. ns1.domain.com.  

11. Click on DNS again - hover your mouse over the user area and check the tool menu and you will see you now have 14 records that have been set up for you.  Click on records to check through them and to make sure your domain name servers are correct.They will be reflected in the last two records.  If you need to make a change to the records click on "edit".

12. Next step for me is to create a database.  Click on DB in the top address line.  Then on the green plus sign to the left of the DB user page, and you can set up a database.  Note that the database and user name will be preceded by admin_name.  Remember to write down the name and password.

13.  How to install WordPress from command line with use of VestaCP database
If like me you want to create a Word Press site that is very easy too.  You then go into root and complete the following steps.

13.1 With minimal CentOS OS I first check whether wget is loaded - with the minimal installation there is a good chance it is not.  If not I then install it like so:

yum install wget

13.2 I then install wordpress tar.gz

wget http://wordpress.org/latest.tar.gz

13.3 I then unzip wordpress
tar --strip-components=1 -xvf latest.tar.gz

13.4 Then remove the zip file
rm latest.tar.gz

13.5 Then finally - and this is very important - give ownership to make changes to WordPress as Admin
chown admin -R *

14. If all went well, when you type your domain into the address line of your browser, it should come up with the WordPress install page.  You can complete the steps with your VestaCP database name, user name and password.  And start your installation.

15. How to set up of WordPress for import of backup copy with All in One WP Migration Plugin
When I'm setting WordPress up, first thing I do is to turn off all comments by clicking on discussion settings.  I also delete the dummy posts and plugins that WordPress usually includes.  Next I load my All in One WP Migration Plugin and the Add-on one one has to purchase (I found it for free many moons ago).  Make sure the plugin is up to date and then upload my backup from the previous VPS.  As easy as that.

16. VestaCP Support Tips
VestaCP is an intuitive panel.  I.e. hovering your mouse over everything brings up tool menus.  Right at the top in there are a few links you can explore for yourself.

17. If you need VestaCP support best is to Google the question, with VestaCP in front of the question, and you'll in all probability get to the VestaCP Forum or a geek blog, I've rarely had a situation when Google didn't come up with an answer. The VestaCP has grown into an awesome collection of inquiries.  I've solved many issues in the past by checking through previously asked inquiries, or asking my own.  In order to get full benefit of the Forum it is a good idea to become a registered member.

https://forum.vestacp.com/

18. VestaCP with Softaculous
VestaCP also features the free version of Softaculous - a mega-script installer. I've never really liked the free version as it doesn't offer WordPress. I'm not using Softaculous presently but did try it out. I tried the paid Softaculous subscription and it worked well. Installation of WordPress was like lightning. It installs the database for you automatically and the installation process can be advanced and more sophisticated with options to choose. Just one thing to remember you need to load ioncube so the server link in the VestaCP Panel Address Line will show Softaculous. And you then need to go into the Softaculous Admin Panel to change the server to VPS. Otherwise it won't work.
/usr/local/vesta/ioncube/ioncube.sh

The reason why I prefer installing WordPress from the command line is that in the rare event VestaCP has an issue and it disappears, your WP sites that have been installed with Softaculous disappear as well. Tongue For some or other reason the database created with VestaCP is still OK however and you can still access your WP sites through the WP Admin Panel. However if the database was created by Softaculous it doesn't seem to be available any longer. Could be there is a workaround, but it's cheaper for me to not have the paid subscription of Softaculous, and also just as fast to create WP from the command line.

19. VestaCP alternative for bigger VPSs and Servers for your super geeks and tech specialists

OK, I'm a VestaCP fan because it is a light panel.  But for those who are more technically minded and have large VPSs or servers to manage, I don't think VestaCP is the answer.  Instead I think WebMIN is the better panel to use.  Reason I'm using VestaCP is because it is so light to the touch.  It uses very very little resources and you can use it even with a VPS with 512 MB RAM.  But with WebMIN you need 1 GB RAM minimum, preferably 2 GB plus.  If you are interested to try WebMIN you can try it out with the tutorial below.



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@xdude

I see you're still struggling to install VestaCP in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, eh? AFAIK, VestaCP users mostly don't recommend to use Ubuntu, use Debian instead. It's more light than Ubuntu but mostly still have the same feature as Ubuntu. I always use Debian with VestaCP instead Ubuntu since there is a problem with mailing system, while in Debian it's not.

Anyway, you guys also recommend Cyberpanel, I can agree on that. That panel is pretty clear, I had no problem using that in the past, not even looking at their documentation but still everything ran perfectly. I should consult with Google and VestaCP's documentation to use VestaCP while with Cyberpanel not. But, if we compare Cyberpanel's documentation with VestaCP's documentation, I would 100% choose VestaCP. It's easier to understand and complete.
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