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india Ban china apps !
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(07-02-2020, 08:03 PM)deanhills Wrote:  Great point.  It's a global Chinese phenomenon.


True.  However it looks like the apps will be banned through instructions to the ISPs and maybe even through Google's Play Store and Apple's App Store:

Source: https://indianexpress.com/article/explai...d-6482150/

That confirms my side of the discussion I had with @sohamb03 on discord.

From the information you’ve provided above, I can see that the ban will work as follows:

ISPs will be forced to block the app’s api, and hence internet-dependent apps such as TikTok won’t be able to communicate to the api (as it’s blocked), hence it won’t work. But that’s insanely easy to bypass through a VPN.

Both the google and appstore won’t offer the apps to anyone in india. HOWEVER, with the appstore, apple will most likely simply remove the apps from the indian store. Which is also easy to bypass by using an account with the country set to anywhere else. This would work because apple doesn’t bother tracing your IP location... so if you let’s say have a US account but you’re living somewhere else, you’ll have full access to all US content from apple’s side without even needing to use a VPN. Which is the exact opposite to what services such as Netflix are doing.

Not sure how things will go from Google play’s side though as I don’t use android so I’m not familiar with how things work with it. But in honesty, you can just install the app apk on android if google play blocks it.
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@ikk157 thx for the feedback. I'm beginning to wonder whether there is the possibility of replicating those apps in India. I.e. can they make their own version of the same app in India for example with a few embellishments? Like India IT is at the forefront of the world - surely they can easily create their own apps and app stores? Like TikTok has millions of users. Instead of taking it from China maybe they could create their own version?
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(Yesterday, 05:41 AM)deanhills Wrote:  @ikk157  thx for the feedback.  I'm beginning to wonder whether there is the possibility of replicating those apps in India.  I.e. can they make their own version of the same app in India for example with a few embellishments?  Like India IT is at the forefront of the world - surely they can easily create their own apps and app stores?  Like TikTok has millions of users.  Instead of taking it from China maybe they could create their own version?

That’s definitely a possibility... I know they have the capability of creating their own versions of the apps they’ve banned, which eliminates them having to use chinese apps (which is their goal).

The real challenge would be how well the citizens would accept those replicas. I’m sure many won’t be a big fan of the replicas and would prefer the real thing.

For example, TikTok has a huge user base, and hence i much bigger community and more content. Even if they develop their own app which behaves like TikTok, they’ll never be able to get the large community advantage that TikTok has. Hence people might not find a point using it in the first place.

And in all honesty, I doubt that people would be too bothered developing their own versions lf these apps. As described in my previous post, it’s extremely easy to bypass the ban... which leaves people with no good reason to develop their own version.
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yes... we all think india is at the forefront of IT. But even if there are many indian origin good programmers , good entrepreneurs are not many How many Made in india popular apps do you know ? all the lists you will find in your search will consist of many apps from companies funded by Chinese capital. So there you go....

we see a lot of languages and standards and frameworks. How many of them are made or designed by indians ?

India may be good at producing It professionals ( Many of them finish their training outside or in corporate world.... ahem ahem ). But producing good number of employment ready ones or entrepreneurs.... you probably know the picture. we have the same few big families running big companies and they are using all financial and political might to stay they way they are..behemoths.... we hear alot of hype about start up...but here too, in comparison to China, we are miles behind.

It is not because we lack talent. it is cause of our political and social environment.

anyways... thanks for this great discussion, guys.
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