[tiwil]

redmi 5a and zenfone 3 is in totally different price range . zenfone 3 is great phone it have same specs as redmi note 4 but with usb type c and much better camera and it is not that expensive espescially after they recently cut the price and 2 os update is kinda rare on mid range phone . xiaomi previous mid range phone (redmi note 3) only get 1 update from lolipop to marshmellow but zen 3 can go fron marshmellow to oreo . and it have snapdragon 625 not 635 like you said . iit have choice from 3/32 4/32 and 4/64 respectively . the 4/32 one is the best value one because the price jump from 4/32 to 4/64 is kinda high but jump from 3/32 to 4/32 is small so it is worth picking the 4/32 version

and yes oppo used a forced marketing . i used to accidientaly get shit oppo phone because of this . luckily i already not using oppo phone again . the sales do that because they want to reach the target of selling oppo phone and selling oppo phone have very high profit margin that makes the sales really want to sell oppo phone . oppo and vivo is mostly notorious for doing this . oppo and vivo is from the same company so no wonder why they do the same thing and the problem this technique is totally working and the bad news is there are lot of phone manafacturer that follow oppo suit with forced marketing and also selfie centric phone . the worst thing is that because of this one of the "best price to performance" brand in indonesia is not offfering it anymore . back then you have 2 choice of "best price to performance phone" asus and xiaomi . but recently asus focuses at camera not a performance again like before and i see some store that also like to offer asus phone but not as aggresively as oppo and they put an ads too . but luckly they kinda backk in the "best price to performance" game by cutting zenfone 3 prices . and even though it is an older phone it is still totally worth it even most midrang phone today still use snapdragon 625 that zenfone 3 use . i can go on and on about oppo but that is for this reply

and also xiaomi fans also called (mifans) like to mock oppo and vivo because of this and sometime insult oppo users . and also in lot of facebook group xiaomi is the most brand that is liked and oppo and vivo is hated . and they really like making fun of oppo and vivo

i also find a fanpage that like to bait /shitposting a mifans . it called "Dukung Oppo dan vivo sebagai merek HP Terbaik " or translated as "Support Oppo and vivo to be the best mobile phone brand" it is funny as hell . and there are lot of mifans that is triggered with the posting on that fanpage .. if you like xiaomi or hate oppo and vivo just search for that fanpage on facebook

that is my opinion? what yours? comment below

Ok I am sorry if I wrong about the Zenfone 3.
Maybe our discussion is kinda out of topic, but afterall, I don't seem see someone talking about Redmi 4a here.

And then, yes, I agree about you, that Redmi 5a and Zenfone 3 is kinda different, but, yes, I would prefer for Zenfone 3 if you are going to use it for gaming, why? Zenfone 3 has newer processor (it is Snapdragon 625 as you said) and better RAM and better internal storage. But, if you are going to use it for daily use and you don't really have much money, I will prefer for Redmi 5a. 16GB is not really ok for me, I like to save many big files inside my Android (I downloaded Kali Linux and not yet move it to my laptop, it's about 2,7GB ? and if I want I will download an anime, it's more than 1GB of course).

For ASUS, yes, it's right, now ASUS seems like to improve their camera (proved with ASUS launched Zenfone 4 Selfie and Zenfone 4 Selfie Pro), but, if you look at the newest Zenfone 4 smartphone, you should take a look at Zenfone 4 Max Pro (with really big battery) and Zenfone 4 Max, or if you want a flagship, look at Zenfone 4, the basic one, hey, Zenfone 4 has got an Android Oreo update ?.
But still, I love ASUS, that's all.

For xiaomi, seems like, they have a problem with the Mi A1 screen and 4x screen, some users get shadow on it. Anyone get it? My fathers phone don't, thank God.

I love Android, but, really, not for Oppo and Vivo.