[deanhills]

I've just been checking the Coronavirus Update (Live) Global stats Website.  Wow!  I remember when I first looked at it during April May this year, and there were just total cases, active cases and deaths.  They now seem to have wakened up to the statistic of how many cases per total population, etc. etc.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

At any rate, when I looked at the total active cases these are the top 10 with the most active cases:

1 USA 2,529,118
2 India 977,802
3 Brazil 631,163
4 France 253,942 635
5 Russia 168,008
6 Peru 132,918
7 Mexico 125,844
8 Argentina 125,447
9 Colombia 93,410 863
10 Bangladesh  92,144

These are the 10 countries with the greatest number of deaths:

1 USA 198,143
2 Brazil 131,274
3 India 78,727
4 Mexico 70,604
5 UK 41,623
6 Italy 35,603
7 France 30,910
8 Peru 30,593
9 Spain 29,747
10 Iran 23,157

I don't believe in the accuracy of total number of cases, but for what it is worth here are the 10 countries with the greatest number of cases:

1 USA 6,677,616
2 India 4,764,786
3 Brazil 4,315,858
4 Russia 1,062,811
5 Peru 722,832
6 Colombia 708,964
7 Mexico 663,973
8 South Africa 648,214
9 Spain 576,697
10 Argentina 546,481

[sAmI]

When i checked months back USA was still on top and india was below pakistan, Literally now india has reached 4.8 million which is really hard to believe what would be the situation there even and almost 1 million cases active, Cases in Pakistan has seem to slower down but i also don't believe it no one is wearing masks literally no one, I believe Pakistan is already in second wave. The numbers are just increasing literally minutes by minutes and it is really worse now.

@deanhills, What do you say when this pandemic will end like in how many months?

Colleges have been opened by 15 Sept, I'm actually scared to go.

[deanhills]

When i checked months back USA was still on top and india was below pakistan, Literally now india has reached 4.8 million which is really hard to believe what would be the situation there even and almost 1 million cases active, Cases in Pakistan has seem to slower down but i also don't believe it no one is wearing masks literally no one, I believe Pakistan is already in second wave. The numbers are just increasing literally minutes by minutes and it is really worse now.

@deanhills, What do you say when this pandemic will end like in how many months?

Colleges have been opened by 15 Sept, I'm actually scared to go.

@sAmI  I don't think the virus is going to end.  It's only going to get less.  But in some places where they haven't learned lessons, it seems to be spiking again. Looks like regionally the cases are significantly different.

For example, I'm wondering what your view is on how Pakistan cases have reduced so much in comparison with India?  Is it in the counting?  Or is it for real.  Like check the active cases and Pakistan is Number 59 only in the world with 5673 Active Cases.  Vs India with 977,802 Active Cases and #2 in the world.  How is that possible?

For total cases India has 4,764,786 cases - #2 in the world.  And Pakistan has 301,481 total cases - #17 in the world.

For total # of deaths.  India is #3 with 78,727 deaths.  And Pakistan 6,379 deaths at #24 in the world.

Total Population:  India = 1300 million  Pakistan = 212.2 million  OK if one divides 212.2 million into 1.3 billion it is approx 6.  So if one multiplies Pakistan stats total active cases are approx 34,000 (that's still a huge difference with India 977,802 Active cases).  Also if one multiplies total number of cases in Pakistan it comes to 1.8 million.  Vs 4.7 million in India.  For deaths if one multiplies Pakistan deaths by 6 it gets to 38247 vs 78,727.

I also see a comparison anomaly in difference between Canada and the United States - 2 countries who are neighbours - when I calculate the difference between the 2.  There is something in Canada or what Canada does that is HUGELY different - like Canada cases are much MUCH lower.  In exact correspondence with Pakistan vs India.  Could it be the status of Public Health and system for care is much higher in Canada than in the United States.  And the same scenario in Pakistan, as I am aware that Public Health has a high status in Pakistan.  It's almost spontaneously applied every where according to the community's abilities.  The level of care is very high.

Note:  I hope this discussion will be a rational discussion as I don't want this to get political.  I'm just wondering about the number of cases and why two countries that are neighbours have such huge differences in Corona Virus cases.  For example, when I click through all of the news channels I get plenty of US reports and US noise and scary stories about cases in the US, and ditto India, but I rarely hear about Canada or Pakistan reports in the channels.

Also note I've taken the stats from the Coronavirus Live Update Global Website:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

[Arkiven4]

Look Like The Corona Virus Will end if the vaccine is discovered, but it is possible the virus will mutate, and make the vaccine less effective.

And About Corona Cases is Higher Or Lower in some country, i think it depend on many Aspect, Like :

• Public awareness of Corona Virus, if public not discipline wearing mask or using hand sanitizer, Or In the Other Case , if public think that corona virus is Hoax or think that corona virus is not deadly and like normal flu . Many People Will get infected easily
  
• How The Goverment Deal with corona virus , in some country the goverment applied Lockdown, but in some other country, the goverment just applied Social disctancing, more flexible  , people can get outside, doing normal activity but with new health protocol , etc . even further , some country doing mass corona test , so the total case will be look higher becasue all infected people is detected , and other country is not doing mass corona test , so the infected people is not detected and make the total case look small/tiny
  

[deanhills]

Agreed @Arkiven4.  Many of the big scientists and public health specialists have warned there are more viruses to come.  

For me the bottom line is a world that has too many people relative to the resources available, and there are too many over populated places.  This is probably going to sound a bit "out there", but if one checks the countries with the largest number of corona virus cases, they are also the countries with areas  of mass population (hot spots) where very many people are living almost on top of one another and in one another's space.  Take the US for example, and most of the cases are concentrated in overpopulated places.  Ditto Italy, Brasilia, India and more.  Corona virus thrives in areas that are lacking in ventilation and where large numbers of people are congregating together for longer periods of time.

I'm looking forward to the vaccines, but wonder what the long term consequences are going to be.  To create a vaccine of a virus that even now scientists don't have a full picture and comprehension of the virus, how could they full understand the long term effect of the vaccine?

[sagher]

In Pakistan the situation is most probably under control. Smart lockdown is applied throughout the country and from 15th of september universities and schools of secondary classes are opened with SOP's
The Govt updated chart is
Total up to date cases : 302,424
Daily ratio : 200 to 500 ppl/day
Death rate is : 1 to 5 ppl/day even 0% recorded.

[sAmI]

@sAmI  I don't think the virus is going to end.  It's only going to get less.  But in some places where they haven't learned lessons, it seems to be spiking again.  Looks like regionally the cases are significantly different.
For example, I'm wondering what your view is on how Pakistan cases have reduced so much in comparison with India?  Is it in the counting?  Or is it for real.  Like check the active cases and Pakistan is Number 59 only in the world with 5673 Active Cases.  Vs India with 977,802 Active Cases and #2 in the world.  How is that possible?

Thank you for the detailed response! The cases is seems to be spiking again in pakistan, The educational institutes were open from 15th of September, 22 Schools were closed by 17th september and now the cases are starting to rise again. Only 300-500 cases were being registered daily. Now today 752 cases were registered, I was really certain fo the situation and i decided to join my college from coming week. In my college too no rules are being followed. 
I was actually comparing in a way like the cases started there was a lockdown in India and India was on about 20,000 while Pakistan being on 25,000 and growing. There was a really smalll growth in coronavirus in India. On some indian news channel a news was shared that Pakistan have this cases and actually it done to make fun of Pakistan. I remember India was really far in the cases. 
I'm really shocked that every day in India there are 100,000 almost registered. The population is indeed really high. 
@sagher, The situation is not certain at all! Tell me when you go outside, Do you see anyone wearing a mask? Using sanitizer? Literally famous stores have stopped doing anything for the pandemic. where literally everyone was using Masks and there was a lockdown there were 5000 cases registered per day. Now literally no one is wearing masks there is crowd everywhere literally everywhere, Markets are busy as they use to be, Most of the people do no even get them self checked they think it's a fever only. Now tell me, If the people are not going for the tests, How is the situation certain?

[sagher]

@sAmI you are right. i am agreed with you but there are many issues but the main issue is the so called spiritual leaders announced in mosques that there is no corona no pandemic. it's collusion of Jewish bla bla bla .....
So thinkless mentally sick people not do anything even whole family.
Here people always feel proud to break laws, even in routine lifestyle is odd. no mask, no helmet, no sanitizing, crowd everywhere.
If the situation is still like that again second spell is came in upcoming winter just 1 month far from Pakistan.

I just pray on this silly mentality. May ALLAH protect all world.

[sAmI]

Updating this thread after a while.
Seems like the second wave (what i mentioned before too) has started in the last week. Almost 800-900 cases are being registered everyday it was like 300-400 2 weeks ago. People are taking no measures for safety at all, Whenever i go to buy some grocery and stuff. It feels like i'm the only one whos wearing a mask. People here think corona does not exist or they say they wanna get infected by covid so the anti-bodies can be created, Sooner now the re-infections stage has also started.
Education Institutes has been opened by the last month, I went to my college and literally i don't wanna go again. So crowded and too much risk and 3 cases reported from our college yet they are ignoring it.

[xdude]

This second wave seems to be hitting lot harder than the first. Even thought countries which thought they got rid of Corona or having it under control gone crazy. This time it's speading faster and symptoms are taking long time to show. I heard US Govenment anncounced they are going to stop trying to fight back. Wonder what they are plan to do now. Sit tight and wait?