[xdude]

Its always better to stay at a safe side. Even Host4Fun wouldn't allow that since i think that they have datacenter in USA too.

Host4Fun is just a middle man. Legal responsibility goto the hosting provider / Sponsor. This won't be a problem for provider who has their business registration outside USA / EU and also using data centers in Russia, China or Asian countries. But sadly I don't think right now there are any off shore vps are available even here.

[Conan]

@xdude Technically, host4fun is the hosting provider. Even if they just rent Dedicated servers then resell resources. They would be liable for anything their customers does.
Also, they need to follow the policy on their US servers even if they're not registered as a business in the USA as their upstream provider is in USA.

As for other continents, most of the hosts would honor DMCA takedowns. Unless you host on "DMCA-ignored" servers.

[kabir145]

US government will not care about a small community on web i think freevps.us should allow everyone to apply for freevps for increasing forum activity

[tiwil]

US government will not care about a small community on web i think freevps.us should allow everyone to apply for freevps for increasing forum activity

Yep, US goverment will not look and even care for a small community, unless they're doing something big and attract the goverment.

But really, when allowing that and ignore the rules, this should be talked to the sponsors either they accept it or not, because it's really dangerous.

[xdude]

@xdude Technically, host4fun is the hosting provider. Even if they just rent Dedicated servers then resell resources. They would be liable for anything their customers does.
Also, they need to follow the policy on their US servers even if they're not registered as a business in the USA as their upstream provider is in USA.

As for other continents, most of the hosts would honor DMCA takedowns. Unless you host on "DMCA-ignored" servers.

@Conan

Post4vps just a facilitator not a hosting provider. Because these servers are not theirs except for what that rented. Legally US government can only do a thing about anything. It's pretty much same about. Only problem is if it makes sponsor unhappy then it's bad for post4vps too. The owner is not a US citizen and Im pretty sure this is not a US registered business. I think we do have VPS  hosted at Russia ? for example if the sponsor is not a US person Then admins can give it to OP. But of cause since it's a kinda unusual matter better get the sponsors opinion about it.

DMCA. That's a US legal policy. It's only effected if you are a registered business in US, US citizen or hosting in a Data center based on USA. Don't apply for other countries. But Some of other countries do have their own copyright laws. At at EU they have different copyright laws in different countries. Like UK and Germany take it seriously and Netherlands and few other countries doesn't bother about it much. For example Romania. But the problem in EU is you can sue for something happen in Netherlands at German court. EU legal system has become complicated and confused with all these stuff they add it to daily. But other than that if hosted in a Eastern European Server including Russia or Even in China they completely ignore DMCA unless you can hire a local lawyer and press on that.

[Conan]

@xdude
Their services in the USA would be shut down if they did anything illegal. I haven't said that they need to follow the policies even on servers hosted in another country. What I said is they would need to follow US laws for US servers.
As for giving VPSs to people in Sanctioned countries, they can't. FreeVPS's owner is based in the USA. I believe FreeVPS would be classified as a reseller here. (Can anyone confirm?)

I know other countries have copyright laws. In fact, that's why they would honor those take down requests.
Also I used "DMCA" as an example since many hosts use the term "DMCA-Ignored" for those type of servers. So yeah.

[youssefbasha]

Its always better to stay at a safe side. Even Host4Fun wouldn't allow that since i think that they have datacenter in USA too.

I don't think, you can check thier ToS if you are not sure, iam busy to check :3
http://client.host4fun.com/knowledgebase...ticle&id=8

[deanhills]

@xdude
I believe FreeVPS would be classified as a reseller here. (Can anyone confirm?)

I'd say yes for when FreeVPS still owned VPS 18.  It would be considered a reseller for VPS 18.  But for any of the other VPSs that are provided by sponsors FreeVPS is only the facilitator.  For example HostUS as the sponsor is still responsible for whatever happens on its free VPSs at FreeVPS.us.  Ditto any of the other sponsors.

[xdude]

Post4VPS is hosted in a German server I believe and owner in not an American citizen so I don't think it matters. So what matters will be German laws and Server providers TOS. I don't think provider also a US service. So if the sponsor is fine with it then it's not a problem here.

[deanhills]

Post4VPS is hosted in a German server  I believe and owner in not an American citizen so I don't think it matters. So what matters will be German laws and Server providers TOS. I don't think provider also a US service. So if the sponsor is fine with it then it's not a problem here.

I have a feeling it is slightly more complicated than this.  If the FBI zeroes on to a Website, they're usually looking for the owner of that Website.  If the owner is from the US, then they already have their screws into him.  If it isn't clear from the Website who the owner is, then they'll go for the owner of the server.  And if they can't find the owner of the server, they'll probably track that to the data center.  In the end it all depends who they're after, which country rules will apply.  The IP will give it away, but is only an IP.  It's the proven owner who is using the IP that may determine the country's laws that apply.  Another factor would be a business Website that is owned by a US citizen however is conducting business with citizens of the EU or UK.  I'd say that at some or other point that US citizen will be subjected to the laws of the country in whose location he is conducting business, or advertising products.