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How effective are vaccines for stopping the spread of Covid 19 globally?
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(02-24-2021, 12:04 AM)tiwil Wrote:  The punishment only apply to qualified person that doesn't take the vaccine. We do have health checkup before the vaccine here. If you don't pass the requirement, our medical person won't vaccine you since it's too dangerous. They're still testing for more people to have less strict requirement. Current requirement is so strict but I think millennials here are qualified.


It is a good thing to have health checkup before taking the vaccine. But still, my point is that sometimes it is difficult to judge who is absolutely unsuitable for taking vaccine.

Because there are always some people who are in marginal conditions. Say they may appear to be healthy enough but actually they feel sick inside. Smile


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(02-26-2021, 03:46 PM)tryp4vps Wrote:  It is a good thing to have health checkup before taking the vaccine. But still, my point is that sometimes it is difficult to judge who is absolutely unsuitable for taking vaccine.

Because there are always some people who are in marginal conditions. Say they may appear to be healthy enough but actually they feel sick inside. Smile

I totally agree with this. Even with a checkup before, it will always be hard to predict how the immune system of any given person will respond to the vaccine. But collectively however, it must be working on enough people to be able to slow down the aggressive spread of the virus for the whole of the population, so that health systems can survive the pandemic. I guess those who aren't good candidates for the vaccine are probably regarded as collateral damage. It's just not loudly said.
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(02-26-2021, 03:46 PM)tryp4vps Wrote:  It is a good thing to have health checkup before taking the vaccine. But still, my point is that sometimes it is difficult to judge who is absolutely unsuitable for taking vaccine.

Because there are always some people who are in marginal conditions. Say they may appear to be healthy enough but actually they feel sick inside. Smile

Define what "feel sick inside" is. I don't know how the checkup procedure is (since I haven't take any vaccine yet) so I cannot comment way too far. But AFAIK there is some prerequisites to take the vaccine as I said before. Some of the prerequisites are:
1. More than 18 years old (since our vaccine "test" was for 18 years old and up)
2. Blood pressure under 180/110 mmHg
3. Haven't confirmed positive for COVID-19 in the last 3 months (I'll explain about my opinion about this prerequisite below)
4. Isn't pregnant
5. Doesn't have allergy to vaccine such as hard to breath or fever
6. Doesn't have asthma, heart disease, etc.
7. Doesn't have immune deficiency, blood clotting disorders, etc.

It's a very strict prerequisites and if one doesn't pass the prerequisites, they cannot take the vaccine. We have tested the vaccine before in phase 3 mid-2020 and got this prerequisites. Therefore for people that have any other disease still can take the vaccine as long as it's not listed there.

About the number 3: I believe we shouldn't vaccine someone that have caught COVID-19 and recovered. Their body already know how to fight the vaccine therefore it's actually not needed. But our government allows to vaccine them but only if more than 3 months just to give the body time to recall the memory they have before.
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(02-25-2021, 09:53 PM)deanhills Wrote:  Unfortunately though Pfizer has not been tested in South Africa yet, only in laboratory probably by Pfizer.  It requires 2 doses and deep freeze refrigeration under specific conditions - not sure whether that is good for a third world country with a great shortage of medical equipment in rural and poorer city areas.  

That is exactly the reason why the audit for administering the Pfizer vaccine in India failed. Unfortunately, remotest corners of the country there isn't even electricity, forget refrigerators. Hence, it is useless to think that the vaccine can be administered there. 

Not only that even in our cities it'll be an absolute hassle to administer the Pfizer vaccine mainly because of the same reason, the non-viable temperature that needs to be achieved for it's storage and continued functioning. 


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