09-15-2019, 12:27 PM
@fitkoh Thank you for your feedback and suggestions. I think there was a movie once about who looks after the watchers. Like ultimately when you start a system of "graders", there has to be one who monitors that. And that is only one half of it. Since there is so much subjectivity involved in "grading" posts, imagine the discussion that is going to come out of that from the user in forms of complaints and disputes. Although a great idea, I think it's not feasible in this community.
Our members here aren't all great at English. Which in my book has never been a problem. Unless there is no effort involved in the communication. Like if someone tries their best, within their limitations, to contribute something, even though the outcome to your more experienced user doesn't look that great, I still think there is merit, whereas a "grading" system would nix it. This is not just a collection of posts we are talking about here but a community of contributors who are all special in their own right. Like the total package is what counts for me all according to their best efforts as well as their continued loyalty to the Forum. Some efforts will be better than others. The ones I am strict with are contributors who you can see are putting no effort in their posts, or who are copying and pasting from other parts of the Web without credit to the author - plagiarism. Those two I feel very unsympathetic with. But for those who are trying, I always look upon them as writing with an accent. And who knows, if they are encouraged and motivated, they will get better at writing.
I'm looking at Frihost.com that had been around for 10 years before it went down. There were some fantastic contributors towards the end of the Forum who when they had started those many years ago, had delivered poor posts because they'd been struggling. They had been encouraged to keep on posting. I think this could be attributed to a mix of quality contributors whom they were trying to emulate, but also members around them who were giving them the space to improve.
I think the system we have now is already strict, perhaps sometimes too strict. I saw freevps.us go down because of very strict rules and even stricter implementation of the rules by the staff. Some of the new members were discouraged to contribute even before they started to make posts.
What attracted me to post4vps here is the nice atmosphere and more empathy and sympathy with existing and new members. There are still rules in place of course, and we do have to have them when there is a competition for points, but they probably are OK. In my book anyway.
Furthermore, we already have a valuable system of vetting by quality members of the Forum by doing reports. So if you see any posts that you think are suspicious, or shouldn't be in a certain Forum or are breaking the rules, you can help by hitting the report tool. That kind of help, and also helping new members who have special requests and needs once they've got their VPS, I think rank in importance. It's also noticeable that those quality "helpers" are also quality posters, who through reputation ranking points by those who had received their assistance and quality post points are in a much better position to get the better VPSs.
With regards to "unused VPSs", I think you should have a look at @Dynamo (the owner's) comment on that. I don't think that is a workable solution. Although it may look as though we have many VPSs, only a small number of those VPSs are of the specs members want to compete for. So if new members should join, if there were very few to compete for of lesser quality, they may not be motivated to stick around. Also Dynamo explained that there aren't really "unused" VPSs. In most of the accounts, once a member returns his VPS it is terminated. A "new VPS" is recreated when applied for. There are exceptions to these, but there may be less "unusued" VPSs than what the eye sees. Dynamo puts it much better than I do below.
https://post4vps.com/Thread-VPS-Giveaway...7#pid23717
Our members here aren't all great at English. Which in my book has never been a problem. Unless there is no effort involved in the communication. Like if someone tries their best, within their limitations, to contribute something, even though the outcome to your more experienced user doesn't look that great, I still think there is merit, whereas a "grading" system would nix it. This is not just a collection of posts we are talking about here but a community of contributors who are all special in their own right. Like the total package is what counts for me all according to their best efforts as well as their continued loyalty to the Forum. Some efforts will be better than others. The ones I am strict with are contributors who you can see are putting no effort in their posts, or who are copying and pasting from other parts of the Web without credit to the author - plagiarism. Those two I feel very unsympathetic with. But for those who are trying, I always look upon them as writing with an accent. And who knows, if they are encouraged and motivated, they will get better at writing.
I'm looking at Frihost.com that had been around for 10 years before it went down. There were some fantastic contributors towards the end of the Forum who when they had started those many years ago, had delivered poor posts because they'd been struggling. They had been encouraged to keep on posting. I think this could be attributed to a mix of quality contributors whom they were trying to emulate, but also members around them who were giving them the space to improve.
I think the system we have now is already strict, perhaps sometimes too strict. I saw freevps.us go down because of very strict rules and even stricter implementation of the rules by the staff. Some of the new members were discouraged to contribute even before they started to make posts.
What attracted me to post4vps here is the nice atmosphere and more empathy and sympathy with existing and new members. There are still rules in place of course, and we do have to have them when there is a competition for points, but they probably are OK. In my book anyway.
Furthermore, we already have a valuable system of vetting by quality members of the Forum by doing reports. So if you see any posts that you think are suspicious, or shouldn't be in a certain Forum or are breaking the rules, you can help by hitting the report tool. That kind of help, and also helping new members who have special requests and needs once they've got their VPS, I think rank in importance. It's also noticeable that those quality "helpers" are also quality posters, who through reputation ranking points by those who had received their assistance and quality post points are in a much better position to get the better VPSs.
With regards to "unused VPSs", I think you should have a look at @Dynamo (the owner's) comment on that. I don't think that is a workable solution. Although it may look as though we have many VPSs, only a small number of those VPSs are of the specs members want to compete for. So if new members should join, if there were very few to compete for of lesser quality, they may not be motivated to stick around. Also Dynamo explained that there aren't really "unused" VPSs. In most of the accounts, once a member returns his VPS it is terminated. A "new VPS" is recreated when applied for. There are exceptions to these, but there may be less "unusued" VPSs than what the eye sees. Dynamo puts it much better than I do below.
https://post4vps.com/Thread-VPS-Giveaway...7#pid23717
Dynamo Wrote:Currently 2 VPS per user policy cannot be implemented at Post4VPS Forum.
The reasons are obvious, there are very less VPSs available in total to do that specially when we need more active users,
If we implement the policy now then chances of getting a nice VPS for new user will decrease very much, their options( to choose from ) would also get lowered down and it will discourage them to even participate.
And just to let you guys known, most of the vpses are being created in real time, which means that there is no resource wastage when no user applies for it.
Currently there are Around 31 VPSs available for users which means there can be total 31 VPS Holders possible for current situation which I don't think is a huge number.
Offtopic:
From my point of view, I guess this is one of the reasons why FreeVPS.us got failed,
Personally I too had to try hard to get a nice VPS from there after loosing my older VPS(when one of there sponsor closed their company) though I was average poster there.
And I personally don't want same to be happened here.
Lastly, it also will increase the workload of the giveaway manager, and it appears, currently @perryoo11 himself is getting less time to invest here(and by looking at our work, I guess it's obvious reason).
It's very early for us to implement 2 VPSs per User feature (keeping some constraints) for now.